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Hello, I'm your host,
Brian Callinan.

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New concerns about public
safety are rising around the

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University of Washington after
the murder of a student, a

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19-year-old transgender woman.

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So what's the City of
Seattle doing about it?

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Plus what's the latest on the
plan to increase the capacity

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of homeless shelters citywide?

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I'm talking with position 8
at-large council member Alexis

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Mercedes-Rink about these
issues and the questions

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you're sending in too.

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Coming up on City Inside
Out, Council Edition.

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South End, Southeast Seattle has
sacrificed enough for transit,

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and so now is not a moment
to be cutting corners.

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All that and more coming
up next on City Inside

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Out, Council Edition.

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And here she is, Alexis
Mercedes-Rink, the council

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member in the position eight at
large role for the city council.

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Great to have you here.

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Always a pleasure
to be here, Brian.

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And I know we're smiling right
now, but I need to start

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with something that's really
difficult to talk about,

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a recent and horrifying event,
the murder of a 19-year-old

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woman, a UW student,
happened to be a transgender

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woman, stabbed to death
in the laundry room of a

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student housing apartment.

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A suspect has been arrested.

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It's not clear what motivated
this attack, but there's a

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lot of concern about this.

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The UW Trans Collective offered
some condolences, of course,

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And I wanted to put in a brief
excerpt from their post here.

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Here's what they wrote.

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Trans women, particularly
trans women of color, are

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among the most vulnerable
populations to violent crimes.

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You've been an advocate for
trans rights on the city

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council ever since you joined.

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Before that, too, I wanted
your perspective on what's

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happening because a lot of
people are scared about this.

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I mean, it is
absolutely devastating.

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And just in the past 24 hours,
we've learned the name of the

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woman who our community
has lost, and her name

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was Juniper Blessing.

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And may her memory
be a blessing.

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This is absolutely tragic.

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And I think for many in
community, while at this time

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we don't know a motive, this
is being felt by our LGBTQIA

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community, because we
know that trans women

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experience disproportionately
high rates of violence against

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them and have a lower life
expectancy because of that.

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And so what has really come up
in this moment is, too, also

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the work that we've been doing
on council trying to reckon with

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this reality and also reality
where right now across the

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United States we have over
700 pieces of anti-trans

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legislation being considered
across the country

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with 23 anti-trans pieces
of legislation actually

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passing this year alone.

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And I've read about this
in the Seattle Gay News.

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Just to jump on this, it sounds
like a lot of people are

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migrating to Seattle to
try to escape some of it.

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Can you talk about that?

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We're in a moment of a lot
of internal displacement,

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and this year I actually
sponsored a resolution

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for Trans Day of Visibility,
which in this moment right now

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where many states are trying
to erase trans people, felt

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really important to do.

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And we brought in folks from our
LGBTQIA Commission, folks from

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trans-led organizations such
as Gender Justice League,

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Lavender Rights Project,
Utopia Washington, to

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really talk about what's
happening in this country to our

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trans community and how Seattle
must be a refuge to the trans

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community. And what we're
hearing on the ground from

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mutual aid organizations
that we have a lot

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of folks coming into our city
and because of our affordability

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challenges are having trouble
finding a place to live.

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And so I'm trying
to really approach

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this work in a way where
we're supporting our new

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neighbors coming in who
are frankly fleeing and I

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think are much more akin to
refugees in this moment.

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Is it a state of emergency type

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thing? I know a few people
have talked about that.

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Yeah, it's, I think we
need to be approaching

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this like it is an emerging
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the Lemkin Institute, Policy
Institute, has actually

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put forward a red flag notice
for the United States marking

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that we're in the early
stages of genocide against

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trans people.

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And so us as a city, you
know, I'll be working

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and have been working
with advocates

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and trans-led organizations
to get an idea

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of what are we currently
seeing within our communities

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and what are the
needs right now.

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And my office is working
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to incorporate what we're
hearing from community

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into concrete actions
the city can take

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to really build on the work
that we have been doing

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to make sure that trans folks
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but thrive here.

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- Yeah, yeah.

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And I want to touch on a larger
public safety issue at UW and

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around the area there, beyond
the concerns about trans people.

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Ava wrote this message.

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University of Washington is now
on lists of the top ten most

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dangerous campuses in the U.S.

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due to regularly reported
assaults, stray bullets

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through a sorority last year,
and tragically, a woman

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was murdered while doing
her laundry this week.

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And this is the case
we're referring to here.

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What are you doing to
improve the safety and

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security of the campus and
surrounding neighborhood?

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Thank you very much
for that email, Ava.

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And I've seen at least
one list where UW was

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on the top 10 most
dangerous colleges.

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Others show it might
be the top 30.

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But regardless, there are some
major continuing concerns

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around campus here, a
place where you've worked,

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where you got your
master's degree.

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Talk to me about this.

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Ava wants to know what the
city's doing about public safety

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in and around the
University of Washington.

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Yeah. It's a -- thank you
for the question, Ava.

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I know as someone who lived in
the neighborhood for some time

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when I was a grad
student and after.

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And also when I was an
employee at the UW,

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there had been a
number of assaults

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that had happened during
my time working at the UW

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and even just living
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experienced and
saw things myself.

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And so we need to be
clear that beefing

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up our response systems are
tremendously important.

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So having timely responses,
but we need to be working

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in the realm of prevention too.

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And so partnering
with the university,

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I think there's a bit of a
bifurcation that happens

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when things happen on UW campus.

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You know, the UW...

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UW cops take care of that.

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Yes, we have the UW PD, and
I know actually a former

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council member, Sally Clark,
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safety over there.

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But we need to do our part to
really bridge that connection

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between city and campus work

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to be working on
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The U District partnership

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has been a really great
partner to the city

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in identifying some of those
street-level challenges

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challenges and working towards
activating outreach resources

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and having a real target
approach to be really

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reaching out to folks
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homelessness in the area,
identifying what's happening

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on the street level and
trying to problem solve.

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Beefing up that work is
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because while responding is part
of it, we need to be preventing

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things from happening
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Okay, so potentially some

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more police in the area,
potentially some of these

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groups that can help prevent
things a little more sensitive.

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Well, I'd lift up that we have
some of the, when I'm talking

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about targeted outreach,
talking about law enforcement

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assisted diversion programs,
so our LEAD program.

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They have an acronym
they call SNF, which

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is like a neighborhood
framework for engagement,

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for understanding what is
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folks when possible.

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But just trying to
problem solve, what is

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the exact ecosystem?

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what are the kind of activities
that we're seeing and how can

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we bring in service
providers and also redirect

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to the appropriate
systems where needed.

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Thank you very much for that.

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I want to make sure I move
on with you and get an

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update on the city's work to
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space it has for people who
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The mayor promoted
this legislation.

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She wants 1,000 new units
of emergency housing

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by the end of the year.

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You pushed for two amendments
to this legislation,

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having staff on site 24
hours a day in these

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sanctioned encampments,
making sure there are

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case managers for people who
might have more needs, too.

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Why did you make
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And bottom line it for
me, what kind of impact

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should Seattleites expect
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Well, at the top, I would state
that it is really refreshing

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to see some urgency behind
scaling housing options and

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emergency housing options.

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So appreciation to Mayor
Wilson and her team for

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really pushing this forward.

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The legislation that was
just considered by the

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Land Use Committee that
I had amendments on is

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part of a suite of three
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two of which that have
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One of those is a budget bill

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to allocate the initial
round of funding for this

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shelter expansion.

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The other piece is related to

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assigning authority to
FAS, which should help

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in expediting bringing
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And the last piece is what we're
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which allows for additional,
basically to expand the

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number of allowable
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Now, I think me
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in many ways want to make
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bringing online more
housing, more emergency

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housing and shelter options, but
we want to make sure that it is

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a quality, that the livability
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the shelter is going to be
good for the folks living

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there. And so in many
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And so I know from my
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human services, I mean,
I've heard from folks

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experiencing homelessness
who maybe got into a service

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and they were like, gosh, I
thought I'd have a case manager.

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I never see them.

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I thought, you know,
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these services and some kind
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And in that same vein, I've
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services providers who are
like, I have a caseload of

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over 35 folks, and I can't
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person and helping them for
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And so the two amendments
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rooted on this fact that, one,
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there's folks on site managing
whatever may be coming up.

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It could be a normal,
normal day, but making

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sure there's somebody
there who's just managing.

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There's at least two staff there
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particularly in overnight hours.

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And then the second amendment
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to a case management ratio,
specifically speaking to

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setting a goal for our high
acuity or how we might

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say high needs clients

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for one case manager
for every 15 folks.

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And this is something that's
been derived from a lot of the

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folks who work really closely
with high needs individuals.

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we need to make sure that
we have a case management

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ratio so we have a worker
able to like really

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show up and tend to that
person's needs as they're

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navigating whatever their
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be so really my amendments that
I put forward are rooted in just

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wanting to make this work and I
think having a well-supported

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workforce is going to be really
key to delivering on successful

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successful villages, not
just for the folks who

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are working in them, the
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them, but also the
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Right. And I want to talk
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and doing it in a sustainable
way, because there was

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an interesting move by
the mayor recently.

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She talked with me here on the
Seattle Channel about some

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of her budget priorities.

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Now, normally these kinds of

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discussions happen in
late summer, early fall,

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but with a budget deficit
of about $150 million

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for next year.

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She wants to discuss
this right now.

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She's asking city
departments to look at 5%--

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excuse me, 5% to 10%
reductions in spending.

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We are taking the next step,
which is basically going back

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and having those departments,
like, go into more depth

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in terms of understanding
what it would look like

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to cut, you know,
a certain amount

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of some program or
service, like, what the

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impact set would be.

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And so that's kind
of, like, the process

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that we are in right now.

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So, yes, it is premature
for us to say, like,

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We're going to slash this
or slash this, right?

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And then at the same time,
we are looking at what

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our revenue options are.

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What do you think about this
process and what the mayor is

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considering for the budget?

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It feels like she's pushing
this a little early.

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And I know the council
doesn't like to get pushed

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around on this kind of stuff.

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What's going on?

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Yeah, I don't know
if I'd characterize

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it as a push per se,
but rather, you know,

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this is a new mayoral
administration and one that

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has inherited a substantial
structural budget deficit.

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So I'm actually relieved that
she's spending time now when

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we're not in the throes and
the heat of budget season

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where things are really tense.

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But we're trying to hash
out what kind of options do

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we even have on the table
so we can have a much more

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robust discussion come budget.

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And so I appreciate
the work so we can try

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and sort out, you know,
what are the kind of

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policy considerations that
we have to have if we're

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looking at reductions?

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and also what are
the revenue options?

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And we got here as the
result of many previous

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mayoral administrations
and councils' decisions.

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And, you know, I know that
through exploring really

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every possible option,
it's going to give us

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the ability to just think
more creatively about

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how we get through this.

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If we're going to fix
this, we are going to need

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everyone working together
to really sort out

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what are our priorities
and how we get here.

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But I know that we have
a lot of big brains

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in the city budget office
and finance office,

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the dedicated leadership of
our executive departments

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and the work of my council
colleagues and their teams

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and our central staff.

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We're going to figure this out.

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I did want to talk about,
I saw a recent headline

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in Publicola about this.

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The mayor of the council
might be considering

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creating a fire
district in Seattle

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so the fire department
could get funding

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from a separate levy, which
would help the budget gap.

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This is basically how
the parks are set up

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through the Parks District here.

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I'm looking at this
and I'm thinking,

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the SFD is a pretty
critical service.

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Do we need a separate
levy to support this?

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Can you talk about this idea?

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I know it's still in
the early stages here,

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but what's going on?

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Yeah, it's still being
cooked up a little bit.

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Just by way of background,
the state legislature

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gave municipalities
like City of Seattle,

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authorized us to be able to
establish a fire district

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and with some
set funding sources.

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I think what we're trying to

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grapple with as a city is
we're approaching the caps to

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what is the allowable amount we
can raise with property taxes.

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I think this entire situation
speaks to the reality that

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municipalities across Washington
are facing structural budget

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deficits. We're constrained on
the types of revenue that we can

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raise and I've been a
force - force is an

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overstatement - I've been active
in Olympia trying to push

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our state delegation to
be working with their

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colleagues to allow
us to have additional

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options more and expand
authority for jurisdictions

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around for jurisdictions
to be able to raise new

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kinds of funding but this
was a a tax that was

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authorized in the most recent
in session and it's an

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option that has in the city.

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And so I think in service of
us really getting creative

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around how can we have
continuity of services,

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I understand why this
is on the table.

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I'm waiting to see, you know,
what ultimately comes before us

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in terms of a proposal.

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But this is one of the
options that is available

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to us at this time.

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And again, all options
need to be on the table

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as we're navigating
this budget deficit.

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Thank you.

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I know we're really
early with that piece,

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but I appreciate the commentary.

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I want to talk about another
economic challenge if I

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could and that would be the
budget of the King County

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Regional Homelessness
Authority It's been around for

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six years as you know It's
had continuing financial

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problems including at least
eight million dollars

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of its budget that is
unaccounted for according to

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this recent forensic audit
Seattle City Council member

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council member Rivera said
at a recent press conference

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it's actually time to
shut the KCRHA down.

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This latest forensic evaluation
is just the last straw.

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The evaluation shows a pattern
of mismanagement of funds that

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can no longer be tolerated.

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It is time to find a
different way to make this

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very important work happen.

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I know you've been working on
this with Councilmember Foster.

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Is it time to end the KCRHA?

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Where are we with this?

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Yeah, let's start just on
the point that the findings

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of the KCRHA forensic
evaluation are serious.

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They require immediate but
thoughtful action as we

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work to address the very
real financial challenges.

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You're not saying shut it down
tomorrow, it sounds like.

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But we can't cause
further harm to people

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experiencing homelessness.

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And moving with a kind of
knee-jerk reaction could

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cause a lot of ultimate harm.

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So that is why myself
and Councilmember Foster

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actually have sponsored
a resolution to really

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navigate what is a
really complex moment

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for all of us right now.

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And this resolution actually
just passed out of my

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committee this morning.

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I chair over our Human
Services, Labor and Economic

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Development Committee.

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But I'd also uplift that myself
and Councilmember Foster

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actually sit on the King
County Regional Homelessness

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Authority Governing Board.

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We are both new to
the governing board.

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It was at our second
meeting that we received

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the forensic evaluation.

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And what we have been focused
on in trying to navigate

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this moment has been really
holding center that we need to

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resolve the fiscal challenges,
financial challenges,

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and keep an eye towards
maintaining services for people

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experiencing homelessness
wherever we go from here.

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And so we've put together
this resolution, and it

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does a couple of things.

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It summarizes the findings
of the forensic evaluation.

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It summarizes the timeline and
deliverables of KCRHA over

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the coming months, including
a corrective action plan.

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It requests that the mayor's
office make a recommendation

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and an initial assessment on
that corrective action plan

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and then requires the mayor's
office to make an official

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recommendation on whether we
should dissolve, restructure,

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or continue with KCRHA.

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And that's by August 1st?

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Did I say that right?

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Yes, that is correct.

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There is a timeline here.

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Yes, we are working
under a timeline.

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And so the public should really
be tuned in on some key dates.

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With what we've initially
requested of KCRHA, they've

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actually delivered on
their first deliverable,

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which was on May 8th.

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They submitted a response to
address the high-risk findings.

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Coming next is a deliverable
on the 23rd of May, submitting

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their corrective action
plan with a timeline on

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addressing audit findings.

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On June 15th, within our
resolution, we're asking

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actually the executive to
report back on their evaluation

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of the May 23rd deliverable.

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We're getting into it now.

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Yes, we're really getting into
the weeds, but I just want

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to be clear on this point.

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But then that brings us
to really August 1st is

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when we're asking for that
recommendation from the

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executive on what is their
recommendation on dissolving,

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restructuring, or continuing.

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And if we're going towards
dissolving, we are actually

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asking for information on
a variety of different

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elements in our current
homelessness response system.

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So the homelessness
response system in our

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region is very complex.

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KCRHA right now holds a
lot of responsibilities,

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not just to administering
Seattle's contracts and

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King County's contracts,
but also state funding

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and also federal funding.

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And administering and
holding key data systems

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that are required by housing
and urban development.

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Unpacking this.

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Unpacking all of that.

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And so I offer those things
just to say we're taking this

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resolution approach to really
map out, you know, we want

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to be clear on our timelines.

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We want to be clear on when
we're expecting information

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on how they're going to
correct or evaluating if they

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can correct some of these
challenges and also starting

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to chart our course forward.

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Our course moving forward
as it relates to the status

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of all of these things.

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Especially as we consider
any type of restructuring

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or dissolution.

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And I wanted to make sure
I asked a question that

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a viewer sent in here.

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Mark has a question about the
entire approach to homelessness

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that our region's taking.

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He wrote this.

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"San Francisco's new mayor has
moved away from the housing

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first, low barrier housing
When are we going to finally

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wake up and do the same?

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With summer almost here, we are
going to see a wave of drug

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addicted, mental health
street folks moving here

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from San Francisco.

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Let's finally fix the problem.

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It's not as complex as
people think it is.

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Just looking at this, the
city of San Francisco

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has this new model that says
it's seeing its lowest level

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of unsheltered
homelessness in 15 years

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with a treatment-first approach,
not a housing-first approach.

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Is it time to make that
change in Seattle?

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Mark wants to know.

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- Hmm.

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I think what's interesting
about what Mark's raising--

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and thank you for
the question, Mark,

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because I think it speaks to the
general public's frustration

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about how we haven't made the
progress that we've needed to.

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And not every single person
experiencing homelessness

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also has substance use disorder.

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That's often what we see.

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It's a very visible part of it.

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There's visible homelessness and
there's invisible homelessness.

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And currently we serve a lot
of that invisible homelessness

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through so many
different systems, our

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family shelter system.

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There's folks who are much
lower acuity who get into a

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shelter bed and then really
just need support with like

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first and last month of rent
to get back into housing.

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And so and then we have a lot
of folks who are sleeping in

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their vehicles, folks who just
got evicted and, you know,

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had something happen in their
life, got evicted and are still

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working, but living out of their
car and just trying to get by.

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And so I lift those things
up to say we need different

490
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,000
approaches to really meet the
needs of different folks.

491
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,038
And in this moment with so much
in flux with KCRHA, also with

492
00:20:33,038 --> 00:20:35,097
the federal government, too,

493
00:20:36,140 --> 00:20:38,970
it is clear from the
executive orders issued by

494
00:20:38,970 --> 00:20:41,699
the Trump administration,
by some of the initial

495
00:20:41,699 --> 00:20:44,171
directives and information
we've seen out of HUD,

496
00:20:44,171 --> 00:20:46,817
as they've indicated with
continuum of care funding.

497
00:20:46,817 --> 00:20:48,680
They're really pushing
for treatment first, too.

498
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,913
They're moving away from
treatment first, or

499
00:20:50,913 --> 00:20:53,380
they're moving towards
treatment first instead.

500
00:20:53,380 --> 00:20:55,355
So we as a region aren't
going to have to grapple

501
00:20:55,355 --> 00:20:56,220
with this question.

502
00:20:56,220 --> 00:20:58,902
I think there is still
sufficient evidence that

503
00:20:58,902 --> 00:21:02,117
suggests that housing first
and really making sure we can

504
00:21:02,117 --> 00:21:05,403
stabilize and have someone in
one place as we start working

505
00:21:05,403 --> 00:21:06,880
on recovery is important.

506
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,113
But as we're really in this
delicate moment with our

507
00:21:10,113 --> 00:21:13,045
approach to homelessness,
we need to have this

508
00:21:13,045 --> 00:21:15,000
conversation with providers.

509
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,778
I think we should be
leading with data.

510
00:21:16,778 --> 00:21:20,160
And evidence still suggests
that housing first is one of

511
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,538
the best ways to support folks
in their path to recovery.

512
00:21:23,538 --> 00:21:27,337
But we also are in a
really challenging moment

513
00:21:27,337 --> 00:21:29,538
with the fentanyl crisis.

514
00:21:29,538 --> 00:21:32,173
And we do not have
enough behavioral health

515
00:21:32,173 --> 00:21:33,640
services and supports.

516
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,057
Now, I do want to uplift
one other thing because

517
00:21:36,057 --> 00:21:38,597
I think it speaks to how
we're trying to do things.

518
00:21:38,597 --> 00:21:41,396
We're trying to pilot and
innovate, especially when

519
00:21:41,396 --> 00:21:44,577
it comes to addressing the
fentanyl and overdose epidemic.

520
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,000
You know, we had a bunch of
our public safety agencies.

521
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,576
So Health One are within
Seattle Fire Department

522
00:21:52,576 --> 00:21:56,680
in partnership with Law
Enforcement Assisted Diversion.

523
00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,548
And other organizations actually
provide a event over the

524
00:22:01,548 --> 00:22:06,720
course of a couple of days to
offer, pardon me, buprenorphine.

525
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,759
Buprenorphine, yes.

526
00:22:07,759 --> 00:22:09,019
Yes, shot treatments.

527
00:22:09,019 --> 00:22:09,778
Yes, right.

528
00:22:09,778 --> 00:22:11,817
Which last for a
number of weeks.

529
00:22:11,817 --> 00:22:13,380
So folks can start at a point.

530
00:22:13,380 --> 00:22:14,317
Get off of the fentanyl.

531
00:22:14,317 --> 00:22:17,564
Yes. With the last number
that was shared with me

532
00:22:17,564 --> 00:22:21,133
was about 30 participants
from that point as a pop-up

533
00:22:21,133 --> 00:22:23,077
event within Little Saigon.

534
00:22:23,077 --> 00:22:25,817
So when we're talking about
being able to start folks

535
00:22:25,817 --> 00:22:28,555
on a pathway to treatment,
this is one that we've seen

536
00:22:28,555 --> 00:22:29,798
some good success from.

537
00:22:29,798 --> 00:22:30,903
They held it last year.

538
00:22:30,903 --> 00:22:32,817
They had another one
a couple weeks ago.

539
00:22:32,817 --> 00:22:35,126
And, you know, the challenge
will be, of course, still

540
00:22:35,126 --> 00:22:37,538
finding those folks and reaching
them so we can continue

541
00:22:37,538 --> 00:22:38,720
that pathway to treatment.

542
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,720
but we are trying
new things as well.

543
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,440
But I think I'd say
holistically in this moment,

544
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,617
we're in a moment of pivot.

545
00:22:44,617 --> 00:22:48,759
We need to make sure that
we are being thoughtful

546
00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:49,940
about where we go from here.

547
00:22:49,940 --> 00:22:50,880
Okay, thank you.

548
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,500
I want to talk about
the moratorium

549
00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:53,880
on building new
detention centers

550
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,298
you sponsored on the council.

551
00:22:55,298 --> 00:22:56,857
That measure recently
passed here.

552
00:22:56,857 --> 00:22:58,660
The hope is that
it'll be helpful

553
00:22:58,660 --> 00:23:00,440
to Seattle's immigrant
communities.

554
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,420
Why'd you sponsor this?

555
00:23:01,420 --> 00:23:03,337
What kind of impact do you
think this is going to have?

556
00:23:03,337 --> 00:23:04,200
Yeah, certainly.

557
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,742
Thank you so much.

558
00:23:05,742 --> 00:23:08,422
This has been one of the actions

559
00:23:08,422 --> 00:23:12,748
that we can take as a city
to try and address the real

560
00:23:12,748 --> 00:23:17,586
harm and that this federal
administration is causing to

561
00:23:17,586 --> 00:23:20,057
our immigrant communities.

562
00:23:20,057 --> 00:23:24,787
And so I'd take us back to
actually December of 2025, where

563
00:23:24,787 --> 00:23:29,905
we saw the initial posting on
SAM.gov about really new funding

564
00:23:29,905 --> 00:23:34,337
to stand up a new detention
center in the Seattle area.

565
00:23:35,357 --> 00:23:37,640
Naturally, that raised
a lot of concern.

566
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,238
And to draw a dotted line
here, there was about $45

567
00:23:41,238 --> 00:23:45,097
billion approved in the Big
Bad Betrayal Bill,

568
00:23:45,097 --> 00:23:46,597
Or Big Beautiful Bill,
as some people know.

569
00:23:46,597 --> 00:23:49,046
As some people may see, I
think it was a betrayal

570
00:23:49,046 --> 00:23:50,298
to the American people.

571
00:23:50,298 --> 00:23:53,680
But $45 billion allocated
specifically to new

572
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,759
detention center capacity.

573
00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:57,720
So expanding capacity or
standing up new sites.

574
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,597
And so then we had
that action happen.

575
00:23:59,597 --> 00:24:02,179
We see a SAM.gov posting
around initial, like a

576
00:24:02,179 --> 00:24:03,700
pre-solicitation notice.

577
00:24:03,700 --> 00:24:07,230
And we took action to say,
well, what kind of levers can

578
00:24:07,230 --> 00:24:08,960
we pull on the local level?

579
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,000
Land use and zoning
is one of them.

580
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,923
And so by putting forward
a one-year moratorium, and

581
00:24:14,923 --> 00:24:17,585
I do want to be clear on
this point because I think

582
00:24:17,585 --> 00:24:20,843
there's confusion or curiosity
in the community about why

583
00:24:20,843 --> 00:24:22,240
it's not an outright ban.

584
00:24:23,298 --> 00:24:26,380
We put in place a moratorium.

585
00:24:26,380 --> 00:24:29,240
We can do moratoriums of
about one year as we develop

586
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,640
permanent regulations.

587
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,153
And because of land use
code and requirements

588
00:24:33,153 --> 00:24:36,000
around environmental review,
it does take a while.

589
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,441
And we wanted to be able to take
a legislative path that allowed

590
00:24:39,441 --> 00:24:42,615
us to move quickly to stop or
prevent anything from coming

591
00:24:42,615 --> 00:24:45,856
online and be able to set the
stage towards a permanent ban.

592
00:24:45,857 --> 00:24:47,538
And so that is
ultimately what we did.

593
00:24:47,538 --> 00:24:49,640
We introduced this as
emergency legislation.

594
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:50,817
So actually required
seven votes.

595
00:24:50,817 --> 00:24:53,980
It has a higher threshold when
we do emergency legislation.

596
00:24:53,980 --> 00:24:57,778
and we put in place a
moratorium for one year.

597
00:24:57,778 --> 00:25:00,337
Council has the ability
to extend that moratorium

598
00:25:00,337 --> 00:25:03,103
if we need additional time,
and right now our departments

599
00:25:03,103 --> 00:25:05,506
are working to figure out,
you know, how do we work

600
00:25:05,506 --> 00:25:08,317
on permanent legislation
to address this issue.

601
00:25:08,317 --> 00:25:11,180
I'm interested still
in a permanent ban.

602
00:25:11,180 --> 00:25:15,259
I think detention centers do not
align with our city's values,

603
00:25:15,259 --> 00:25:16,940
nor do I think we
should be assisting

604
00:25:16,940 --> 00:25:18,900
in this federal regime's agenda.

605
00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:22,596
And I say that, too, because
of the, I mean, the continuing

606
00:25:22,596 --> 00:25:26,601
headlines we're seeing out of
the Northwest Detention Center

607
00:25:26,601 --> 00:25:28,680
of abuses, human rights abuses.

608
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,269
The UW Center for Human
Rights covers a lot of

609
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:32,880
what they're seeing there.

610
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,529
There are we're hearing
about things of people not

611
00:25:36,529 --> 00:25:40,616
getting medical attention or
basic health care, sexual

612
00:25:40,616 --> 00:25:42,880
violence allegations as well.

613
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,260
And so we we do not want to
expand or allow for more of

614
00:25:47,260 --> 00:25:50,077
that to happen in our community.

615
00:25:50,077 --> 00:25:51,336
Okay. Thank you for that.

616
00:25:51,336 --> 00:25:52,950
I want to try to
move to what might

617
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:55,701
be a light topic, light rail,
but I'm not sure about this

618
00:25:55,701 --> 00:25:58,093
one. Although, folks, I
want you to look at this.

619
00:25:58,093 --> 00:26:00,066
One of Councilmember
Rink's many viral

620
00:26:00,066 --> 00:26:03,056
videos on social media here
documenting a trip on light rail

621
00:26:03,056 --> 00:26:06,163
across Lake Washington at the
end of March where you connected

622
00:26:06,163 --> 00:26:09,334
with your friend Redmond City
Councilmember Jessica Forsyth.

623
00:26:09,334 --> 00:26:12,202
A beautiful moment there, of
course, but something not so

624
00:26:12,202 --> 00:26:15,075
beautiful. Sound Transit has
announced it's not going to

625
00:26:15,075 --> 00:26:18,125
make it to Ballard anytime soon,
which voters said yes to with

626
00:26:18,125 --> 00:26:19,557
Sound Transit 3 back in 2016.

627
00:26:19,557 --> 00:26:21,337
I know you're a big
transit supporter here.

628
00:26:21,337 --> 00:26:23,509
You're vice chair of the
council's transportation

629
00:26:23,509 --> 00:26:25,278
committee, and I know
you've rallied with

630
00:26:25,278 --> 00:26:27,837
Ballard Light Rail
supporters in the past.

631
00:26:27,837 --> 00:26:29,278
What do you tell them now?

632
00:26:29,278 --> 00:26:32,449
We just had such an amazing
moment as a region when we had

633
00:26:32,449 --> 00:26:34,817
the Cross Lake
Connection come online.

634
00:26:34,817 --> 00:26:37,650
I mean, we had the second
highest day of service

635
00:26:37,650 --> 00:26:40,480
of ridership in the entire
system, our history

636
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,577
of Sound Transit on
that opening day.

637
00:26:42,577 --> 00:26:46,940
I think it was over 200,000
people rode light rail that day.

638
00:26:46,940 --> 00:26:48,651
And we broke a world record.

639
00:26:48,651 --> 00:26:50,807
We put a train on
a floating bridge.

640
00:26:50,807 --> 00:26:53,780
So just a feat of innovation,
something we could

641
00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:54,750
all celebrate.

642
00:26:54,750 --> 00:26:57,651
And immediately after
that tremendous day for

643
00:26:57,651 --> 00:27:01,221
transit and for connection
across our region, really the

644
00:27:01,221 --> 00:27:04,567
news about the future of ST3
and how we fully deliver on

645
00:27:04,567 --> 00:27:07,990
the voter approved measure
kind of came in and now folks

646
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:11,558
are grappling with, are they
ever going to get light rail?

647
00:27:11,558 --> 00:27:12,740
I've got about 30 seconds left.

648
00:27:12,740 --> 00:27:13,192
Keep going.

649
00:27:13,192 --> 00:27:13,807
Yeah. Yeah.

650
00:27:13,807 --> 00:27:16,451
So we, I've been active
in advocating for

651
00:27:16,451 --> 00:27:20,182
Ballard Light Rail and fully
completing the Ballard Link

652
00:27:20,182 --> 00:27:23,680
extension, including getting
a date on the calendar.

653
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,115
That is one of my asks of the
Sound Transit Board, to get a

654
00:27:26,115 --> 00:27:28,712
date on the calendar for Ballard
Link extension, as well as

655
00:27:28,712 --> 00:27:30,038
delivering on Graham Street.

656
00:27:30,038 --> 00:27:32,507
I think there's a real
equity problem that's been

657
00:27:32,507 --> 00:27:35,153
put to the forefront that
we've continued to defer on

658
00:27:35,153 --> 00:27:36,538
the Graham Street station.

659
00:27:36,538 --> 00:27:38,200
We've upzoned in
the neighborhood.

660
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,460
We've planned for growth.

661
00:27:39,460 --> 00:27:42,208
And now we need to be able to
move people and really deliver

662
00:27:42,208 --> 00:27:43,636
and make good on that promise.

663
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,855
You know, the south end,
southeast Seattle has

664
00:27:46,855 --> 00:27:49,077
sacrificed enough for transit.

665
00:27:49,077 --> 00:27:52,211
And so now is not a moment to
be cutting corners and really

666
00:27:52,211 --> 00:27:53,880
backing up with that promise.

667
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,613
And so I'm going to continue
being a strong advocate for

668
00:27:56,613 --> 00:27:59,346
completing full Ballard Link
extension, which, again,

669
00:27:59,346 --> 00:28:02,019
would have the highest
ridership projected numbers.

670
00:28:02,019 --> 00:28:07,471
I believe it's up to 147,000
additional people every day

671
00:28:07,471 --> 00:28:10,259
in that line and continuing.

672
00:28:10,259 --> 00:28:12,019
And we need to deliver
on Graham Street Station.

673
00:28:12,019 --> 00:28:13,420
I know there's a lot
still ahead with that.

674
00:28:13,420 --> 00:28:14,817
Council Member Rink,
thank you very much.

675
00:28:14,817 --> 00:28:15,640
I'm Brian Callinan.

676
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,900
We'll see you next time on City
Inside Out Council Edition.

677
00:28:19,317 --> 00:28:35,720
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678
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