1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,359 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:02,359 --> 00:00:04,540 It is so hot in Seattle right now. 3 00:00:04,540 --> 00:00:07,360 When I say hot, I mean that there is ice everywhere. 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:08,919 Why immigration violations? 5 00:00:08,919 --> 00:00:10,099 Why it is? 6 00:00:10,099 --> 00:00:14,359 I mean, any one of us would be very scared, 7 00:00:14,359 --> 00:00:16,199 especially when we know what they're capable of. 8 00:00:16,199 --> 00:00:19,260 They're capable of killing people when they feel like it. 9 00:00:19,260 --> 00:00:20,838 Why white little refugees? 10 00:00:20,838 --> 00:00:23,079 Why just things that I don't know, like, person? 11 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,975 People need to understand that this is what is happening. 12 00:00:27,975 --> 00:00:30,320 Our democracy is long gone. 13 00:00:31,940 --> 00:00:37,051 That's Stacey Fitzpatrick, the wife of Eduardo Aguirre, who 14 00:00:37,051 --> 00:00:40,725 was arrested by ICE on July 23rd in West Seattle. 15 00:00:40,725 --> 00:00:42,398 As ICE agents arrested her 16 00:00:42,398 --> 00:00:45,439 husband, Fitzpatrick says they did not present 17 00:00:45,439 --> 00:00:47,774 a judicial warrant for his arrest. 18 00:00:47,774 --> 00:00:50,429 Agents said they were arresting him for 19 00:00:50,429 --> 00:00:54,917 an immigration violation, even though he had been pursuing 20 00:00:54,917 --> 00:00:55,993 a green card. 21 00:00:55,993 --> 00:01:00,000 I'm Enrique Cerna and welcome to Chino y Chicano. 22 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,496 Eduardo Aguirre worked as a contractor. 23 00:01:02,496 --> 00:01:05,358 He was arriving to work at a home in West Seattle 24 00:01:05,358 --> 00:01:08,578 when ICE agents surrounded his vehicle. 25 00:01:08,578 --> 00:01:12,760 His arrest drew protests from Washington Senator Patty Murray 26 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,700 and 7th District Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal. 27 00:01:16,700 --> 00:01:19,980 ICE activity and arrests have been surging in the 28 00:01:19,980 --> 00:01:21,980 Seattle area in recent weeks. 29 00:01:21,980 --> 00:01:25,066 Get His Wife, Stacey Fitzpatrick, talked with me 30 00:01:25,066 --> 00:01:28,703 about her husband's arrest and how ICE moved quickly to 31 00:01:28,703 --> 00:01:32,944 take him out of Washington State and transfer him to a 32 00:01:32,944 --> 00:01:35,040 detention center in Texas. 33 00:01:38,099 --> 00:01:40,028 Well, Stacey, thank you so much for taking 34 00:01:40,028 --> 00:01:41,019 the time to talk to me. 35 00:01:41,019 --> 00:01:41,858 I appreciate it. 36 00:01:41,858 --> 00:01:43,840 I know that these are tough times for you. 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,218 Do you even know where your husband is right now? 38 00:01:47,218 --> 00:01:51,688 At this point, I know that he is in the El 39 00:01:51,688 --> 00:01:54,620 Paso Processing Center. 40 00:01:55,700 --> 00:02:00,379 So this is now his second location in El Paso. 41 00:02:00,379 --> 00:02:03,078 Okay. And you know for sure that he's there now? 42 00:02:03,078 --> 00:02:06,114 So I know for sure because, well, because that's what 43 00:02:06,114 --> 00:02:07,700 my phone says when he calls. 44 00:02:07,700 --> 00:02:08,550 He's told me that. 45 00:02:08,550 --> 00:02:10,020 So now we are in communication. 46 00:02:10,020 --> 00:02:11,722 Sometimes there's a big lag between 47 00:02:11,722 --> 00:02:14,270 when they're transporting people between different 48 00:02:14,270 --> 00:02:16,818 facilities where you don't hear from them for a while. 49 00:02:16,818 --> 00:02:20,060 We don't even really know where his case is going to be. 50 00:02:20,060 --> 00:02:22,020 We know nothing. 51 00:02:22,020 --> 00:02:25,389 So our attorneys are sort of waiting for that information 52 00:02:25,389 --> 00:02:28,622 to be entered so that they can then enter their notice of 53 00:02:28,622 --> 00:02:30,520 appearance there and get going. 54 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,038 So let's go back to the day that this happened. 55 00:02:33,038 --> 00:02:36,639 That day, what was going on? 56 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,697 So he was working on a project in an area of 57 00:02:40,697 --> 00:02:43,680 Seattle called West Seattle. 58 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,526 He had contracted with a homeowner out there to do 59 00:02:46,526 --> 00:02:49,240 some remodeling on their home in the morning he 60 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,913 came he expressed a concern about having to go to 61 00:02:52,913 --> 00:02:56,500 Home Depot so he went to a store that's closer to 62 00:02:56,500 --> 00:03:00,221 our home where there's kind of less ICE action 63 00:03:00,221 --> 00:03:04,038 and but it appears that during the course of the 64 00:03:04,038 --> 00:03:07,549 day that he had to go buy some materials from the Home 65 00:03:07,549 --> 00:03:09,377 Depot there in West Seattle. 66 00:03:09,377 --> 00:03:14,901 And from what I understand from onlookers, he pulled into the 67 00:03:14,901 --> 00:03:16,092 parking lot. 68 00:03:16,092 --> 00:03:18,723 He got whatever he needed. 69 00:03:18,723 --> 00:03:23,751 And then I followed him from that location 70 00:03:23,751 --> 00:03:25,616 to the job site. 71 00:03:25,616 --> 00:03:28,919 And then he was apprehended 72 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,280 at that time. 73 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:30,840 You have rights. 74 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,780 You don't need to tell them anything. 75 00:03:32,780 --> 00:03:35,180 And we're not talking just one or two agents 76 00:03:35,180 --> 00:03:39,340 that came up and did the detaining and arresting him. 77 00:03:39,340 --> 00:03:41,360 I mean, we're talking about a group of guys. 78 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,038 A group of guys and a lot of ICE folks. 79 00:03:45,038 --> 00:03:48,680 All pretty much had their faces covered, 80 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,038 as I understand. 81 00:03:50,038 --> 00:03:52,949 Yeah, which is, you know, contrary to our law in 82 00:03:52,949 --> 00:03:54,560 the state of Washington, by the way. 83 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,372 They're not allowed to wear masks, but of course they're 84 00:03:58,372 --> 00:04:00,157 doing whatever they want. 85 00:04:00,157 --> 00:04:05,187 So I've seen some of the video of this that people had recorded 86 00:04:05,187 --> 00:04:10,116 and he cooperated, but they also basically threatened that 87 00:04:10,116 --> 00:04:14,852 if he didn't, they were going to smash the window on his car 88 00:04:14,852 --> 00:04:17,120 to get him out at that point. 89 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,637 And you've seen all the video too I guess what 90 00:04:19,637 --> 00:04:22,360 was your reaction when you've seen these things 91 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,971 he did exactly what we had planned um so I could 92 00:04:25,971 --> 00:04:29,680 they're very hard to watch because you can hear 93 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,408 the fear the anxiety I mean any one of us would be very 94 00:04:34,408 --> 00:04:38,814 scared especially when we know what they're capable of they're 95 00:04:38,814 --> 00:04:41,899 capable of killing people when they feel like it we had had 96 00:04:41,899 --> 00:04:44,593 discussions about we didn't need to tell them anything that 97 00:04:44,593 --> 00:04:47,598 okay if they tell you get out of the car get that car hey do you 98 00:04:47,598 --> 00:04:50,778 have a phone number you want me to call um and I was really 99 00:04:50,778 --> 00:04:55,165 struck by I'm sorry I'm gonna get a little no I understand 100 00:04:55,165 --> 00:04:59,036 I'm not scary but um really I was really struck by the 101 00:04:59,036 --> 00:05:03,360 bravery of the people around him, including the homeowner, 102 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,689 who was the one who was standing in front of the ICE 103 00:05:06,689 --> 00:05:11,379 vehicle trying to prevent them from taking him away. 104 00:05:11,379 --> 00:05:15,658 And so I was struck also by the bravery of just everyday 105 00:05:15,658 --> 00:05:18,439 people trying to do the right thing. 106 00:05:18,439 --> 00:05:22,682 Well, the reason that we have the video was because there 107 00:05:22,682 --> 00:05:26,418 were some amazing community, I'll call them community 108 00:05:26,418 --> 00:05:29,093 activists, but they go to locations where ICE 109 00:05:29,093 --> 00:05:32,252 is known to hang out and try to racially profile 110 00:05:32,252 --> 00:05:36,319 people. And so this young woman was at Home Depot and saw 111 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,509 Eduardo leave, ICE leave after them, and then 112 00:05:40,509 --> 00:05:42,040 she trailed after them. 113 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,389 I'll call for you. 114 00:05:43,389 --> 00:05:44,379 I'm so sorry. 115 00:05:44,379 --> 00:05:49,401 And through the network of that neighborhood and all the 116 00:05:49,401 --> 00:05:54,103 things, everyone came out to try to do what they could 117 00:05:54,103 --> 00:05:59,019 to document it and to help to protect Eduardo's rights. 118 00:05:59,019 --> 00:06:02,557 As you said, the two of you had talked about this, 119 00:06:02,557 --> 00:06:06,360 knowing that things have changed in our country and 120 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,660 also that he was undocumented. 121 00:06:08,660 --> 00:06:11,872 But as I understood it, he had applied for his green 122 00:06:11,872 --> 00:06:13,480 card. Tell me about that. 123 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,500 We just got married two years ago. 124 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:18,459 Our anniversary was actually on the 31st of July. 125 00:06:18,459 --> 00:06:21,896 And, and we had started the prop, the process very 126 00:06:21,896 --> 00:06:24,160 quickly after getting married. 127 00:06:25,838 --> 00:06:30,497 So we applied for the I-130, which is like how you establish 128 00:06:30,497 --> 00:06:32,399 a family relationship. 129 00:06:33,519 --> 00:06:36,870 And then that was approved with, you know, USCIS. 130 00:06:36,870 --> 00:06:38,423 That's the first step. 131 00:06:38,423 --> 00:06:42,422 And the second step in his case was to file a petition 132 00:06:42,422 --> 00:06:43,564 for a waiver. 133 00:06:43,564 --> 00:06:45,535 And that was received. 134 00:06:45,535 --> 00:06:48,439 And in fact, we got an appointment 135 00:06:48,439 --> 00:06:53,701 time for him to do his biometrics at USCIS here 136 00:06:53,701 --> 00:06:55,086 in Tukwila. 137 00:06:55,086 --> 00:06:59,379 But as we all know, ICE doesn't really 138 00:06:59,379 --> 00:07:03,100 care one way or the other what you're where you are in the 139 00:07:03,100 --> 00:07:06,456 process of um obtaining legal residency that's true 140 00:07:06,456 --> 00:07:09,447 many people have been in the process have even 141 00:07:09,447 --> 00:07:12,254 gone to appointments yeah some people have gone 142 00:07:12,254 --> 00:07:14,403 to the appointment to actually physically 143 00:07:14,403 --> 00:07:17,600 receive their green card and are taken by ICE so this is 144 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,480 this is where we're at it is so hot in Seattle right now when 145 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,720 And when I say hot, I mean that there is ice everywhere. 146 00:07:25,278 --> 00:07:28,911 And they kind of fly under the radar of non-Latinos here 147 00:07:28,911 --> 00:07:33,016 because they're going to places where maybe, like, other kind 148 00:07:33,016 --> 00:07:36,649 of people aren't, they don't, they're not seeing it the 149 00:07:36,649 --> 00:07:40,439 way that the Latino community is seeing it and feeling it. 150 00:07:40,439 --> 00:07:43,627 It's almost as if we're sort of have two parallel 151 00:07:43,627 --> 00:07:45,620 universes kind of happening. 152 00:07:45,620 --> 00:07:49,259 So, I mean, what ICE has done, I mean, they're being, I'm 153 00:07:49,259 --> 00:07:52,819 going to say smart, in that they're trying to, like, do 154 00:07:52,819 --> 00:07:54,639 what they did with Eduardo. 155 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:57,733 They're trying to sort of follow him, you know, follow him to 156 00:07:57,733 --> 00:08:00,951 a quieter neighborhood to do their deeds, rather than putting 157 00:08:00,951 --> 00:08:03,860 it on full blast in the middle of a Home Depot parking lot. 158 00:08:03,860 --> 00:08:06,872 Okay, so let's talk about what happened to him 159 00:08:06,872 --> 00:08:08,379 after he was arrested. 160 00:08:08,379 --> 00:08:11,995 So he called me immediately, and a funny number 161 00:08:11,995 --> 00:08:13,480 came up on my phone. 162 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,399 But I picked it up, and it was him calling from not his cell. 163 00:08:17,399 --> 00:08:19,199 And of course, immediately, I knew what had happened. 164 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:20,853 There's only one reason why he'd be calling me from 165 00:08:20,853 --> 00:08:21,759 someone else's cell phone. 166 00:08:21,759 --> 00:08:25,370 So he told me, look, I've got ice, and I'm 167 00:08:25,370 --> 00:08:27,338 in Tukwila right now. 168 00:08:27,338 --> 00:08:30,600 I need you to act pretty fast because they're going to take 169 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,000 me to Tacoma, which is where our detention facility is here. 170 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:40,205 And so we hung up and I went to work finding the appropriate 171 00:08:40,205 --> 00:08:46,538 attorney, figuring out our game plan and all of that stuff. 172 00:08:46,538 --> 00:08:48,298 Now you're an attorney? 173 00:08:48,298 --> 00:08:48,557 I am. 174 00:08:48,557 --> 00:08:51,225 I'm a non-practicing attorney, but I am a trained 175 00:08:51,225 --> 00:08:54,220 attorney and good standing in the state of Washington. 176 00:08:54,220 --> 00:08:57,937 So you have some knowledge about what to do, but you have to get 177 00:08:57,937 --> 00:08:59,980 an immigration attorney, right? 178 00:08:59,980 --> 00:09:00,298 I do. 179 00:09:00,298 --> 00:09:03,399 And as it so happens, one of my very best friends 180 00:09:03,399 --> 00:09:06,899 from law school here, and we went to UW together, is an 181 00:09:06,899 --> 00:09:08,490 immigration attorney. 182 00:09:08,490 --> 00:09:10,557 And so I had the really, really, 183 00:09:10,557 --> 00:09:13,980 we had the really, really good luck to have her at our 184 00:09:13,980 --> 00:09:17,399 disposal because, you know, a lot of the things that 185 00:09:17,399 --> 00:09:21,220 occurred happened on a weekend, and it's not by accident. 186 00:09:21,220 --> 00:09:24,985 This is like part of their pattern and practice of trying 187 00:09:24,985 --> 00:09:28,591 to deprive people of the ability to obtain counsel, to 188 00:09:28,591 --> 00:09:32,115 talk to their counsel, let alone being able to talk to 189 00:09:32,115 --> 00:09:34,038 their family and loved ones. 190 00:09:34,038 --> 00:09:36,903 Right. So one of the things that has happened with him, 191 00:09:36,903 --> 00:09:40,081 which I think is happening to others around the country that 192 00:09:40,081 --> 00:09:43,009 are being arrested, detained and arrested, is the fact 193 00:09:43,009 --> 00:09:46,000 that suddenly they're being shipped around quite a bit. 194 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,538 So tell me about what happened after you. 195 00:09:49,538 --> 00:09:51,820 So after we spoke, and I think this is a notable 196 00:09:51,820 --> 00:09:52,840 thing to talk about. 197 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,326 Before we get to him being transferred to Texas, they 198 00:09:56,326 --> 00:09:59,740 take them to the Tukwila facility for their intake. 199 00:09:59,740 --> 00:10:02,927 But instead of doing their intake, they spend a good 200 00:10:02,927 --> 00:10:05,673 amount of time trying to get them to sign like 201 00:10:05,673 --> 00:10:08,940 a voluntary deportation order against themselves. 202 00:10:08,940 --> 00:10:13,710 Right um and of course the form is in English and the tiny font 203 00:10:13,710 --> 00:10:17,971 like Eduardo like me and many other people in their 204 00:10:17,971 --> 00:10:21,625 50s need glasses to read um did 205 00:10:21,625 --> 00:10:24,514 not have glasses um and they held him and I don't 206 00:10:24,514 --> 00:10:26,341 know whether this part is happening to 207 00:10:26,341 --> 00:10:29,363 everyone or whether it was a specific thing to him, 208 00:10:29,363 --> 00:10:32,500 but they held him for about 10 hours, um, 209 00:10:32,500 --> 00:10:36,206 pressuring him up to like 20 agents in, in where, in 210 00:10:36,206 --> 00:10:39,538 the room that he was at any given time, pressuring 211 00:10:39,538 --> 00:10:42,576 him and threatening him with, with, they were 212 00:10:42,576 --> 00:10:45,341 going to beat him up if he didn't sign, if he 213 00:10:45,341 --> 00:10:47,080 didn't sign the document. 214 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,345 And we had talked a lot about not signing anything. 215 00:10:50,345 --> 00:10:52,522 And he told them, you know, that he 216 00:10:52,522 --> 00:10:56,253 wasn't going to be signing anything without his lawyer or 217 00:10:56,253 --> 00:10:58,196 his wife, who's also a lawyer. 218 00:10:58,196 --> 00:10:59,595 And he didn't sign it. 219 00:10:59,595 --> 00:11:02,158 But from what I understand is like those 220 00:11:02,158 --> 00:11:03,947 who do sign it, they're off. 221 00:11:03,947 --> 00:11:07,754 The next thing you know, to El Paso with a couple stops along 222 00:11:07,754 --> 00:11:09,778 the way to pick up other people. 223 00:11:09,778 --> 00:11:11,798 And then they're out to Mexico. 224 00:11:11,798 --> 00:11:14,705 Right they just and but people like Eduardo who 225 00:11:14,705 --> 00:11:17,759 don't sign are then maybe in the Tacoma detention 226 00:11:17,759 --> 00:11:20,171 facility maybe for a day or two and then they are 227 00:11:20,171 --> 00:11:22,519 moved in Eduardo's case in the middle of the 228 00:11:22,519 --> 00:11:25,370 night um to El Paso and there was a big like 229 00:11:25,370 --> 00:11:28,538 kind of 48 hour period where you had no idea where 230 00:11:28,538 --> 00:11:32,826 it was at all wow during that period what was going through 231 00:11:32,826 --> 00:11:36,375 your mind as you're just dealing with this they 232 00:11:36,375 --> 00:11:38,705 couldn't tell us anything the GEO employees at 233 00:11:38,705 --> 00:11:40,951 you know they don't know everything and those are 234 00:11:40,951 --> 00:11:42,855 the folks that work at the detention facility 235 00:11:42,855 --> 00:11:44,879 so they were like well it just says he's been 236 00:11:44,879 --> 00:11:47,500 released and i was like well is that what does that 237 00:11:47,500 --> 00:11:49,634 mean does that mean he's been moved to another 238 00:11:49,634 --> 00:11:51,576 facility and they were like no it means he's going 239 00:11:51,576 --> 00:11:53,643 to Mexico and I was like and so um so sort of 240 00:11:53,643 --> 00:11:56,744 logistically like okay telling the family that 241 00:11:56,744 --> 00:11:59,110 answer any phone call that you get doesn't 242 00:11:59,110 --> 00:12:01,340 matter if you recognize the number or not um and 243 00:12:01,340 --> 00:12:04,427 here are the things to ask him right and then also 244 00:12:04,427 --> 00:12:08,009 I had to go into like to start okay if we don't 245 00:12:08,009 --> 00:12:11,322 know where he is where do we file in a tr like an 246 00:12:11,322 --> 00:12:14,360 emergency filing for his purpose like where do 247 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,162 we do it coming up with a plan with his attorney here um 248 00:12:18,162 --> 00:12:22,899 in another college I mean a law school classmate of ours round 249 00:12:22,899 --> 00:12:25,293 down tabling, okay, well, strategically, what are we 250 00:12:25,293 --> 00:12:25,822 going to do? 251 00:12:25,822 --> 00:12:27,259 Ultimately, we decided that we, 252 00:12:27,259 --> 00:12:31,533 since we didn't know his whereabouts, that we 253 00:12:31,533 --> 00:12:34,572 were going to file the TRO in D.C. 254 00:12:34,572 --> 00:12:37,008 DHS is in Washington, D.C., so ICE 255 00:12:37,008 --> 00:12:39,912 is based in Washington, D.C., so we thought, 256 00:12:39,912 --> 00:12:44,480 well, since we don't know where he is, let's file it in 257 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:50,960 the place where we know that in this case that the person or the 258 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,519 entity by whom he has been detained, abducted, I 259 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:56,475 would say, is based there. 260 00:12:56,475 --> 00:13:00,230 So I would say if I'm putting on my hat as a judge, I 261 00:13:00,230 --> 00:13:03,238 would say, okay, well, they are here. 262 00:13:03,238 --> 00:13:06,235 So I think that this is an appropriate place. 263 00:13:06,235 --> 00:13:07,460 And ultimately, I mean, we 264 00:13:07,460 --> 00:13:08,071 withdrew it. 265 00:13:08,071 --> 00:13:09,740 We withdrew the motion because then 266 00:13:09,740 --> 00:13:12,158 we figured out where he really was. 267 00:13:12,158 --> 00:13:14,408 But the court was on it and within 268 00:13:14,408 --> 00:13:17,730 and they had it, I think, noted for oral argument, 269 00:13:17,730 --> 00:13:20,489 you know, with within eight hours. 270 00:13:20,489 --> 00:13:22,298 So when we're talking about 271 00:13:22,298 --> 00:13:25,692 But habeas corpus in this case, making a petition for 272 00:13:25,692 --> 00:13:29,081 that, that's basically that the government has to have 273 00:13:29,081 --> 00:13:30,778 a court appearance, right? 274 00:13:32,940 --> 00:13:36,580 I mean, that's what the Constitution would afford. 275 00:13:36,580 --> 00:13:40,524 But how that's playing out in real time is not happening 276 00:13:40,524 --> 00:13:44,301 the way that most of us would anticipate or would hope 277 00:13:44,301 --> 00:13:46,360 that it's being carried out. 278 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,620 Yeah. And other things like due process 279 00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:52,879 are being thrown out the window at this point. 280 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,195 Right. So and as we talked about this, this is happening 281 00:13:58,195 --> 00:14:02,298 around the country that you've been able to to detect. 282 00:14:02,298 --> 00:14:05,378 Right. The way like he's being handled and then this 283 00:14:05,378 --> 00:14:08,456 whole thing about whether you're even going to get a 284 00:14:08,456 --> 00:14:11,820 court appearance or be able to have your attorney there. 285 00:14:11,820 --> 00:14:14,043 Yeah. And if you don't know the legal system 286 00:14:14,043 --> 00:14:15,220 at all, you're you're. 287 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,273 Yeah, you're it's going to be real tough. 288 00:14:19,273 --> 00:14:21,176 Yeah. Now, it's really it 289 00:14:21,176 --> 00:14:23,220 was really interesting. 290 00:14:23,220 --> 00:14:26,748 Senator Patty Murray here had made a statement calling for 291 00:14:26,748 --> 00:14:30,418 ICE to return him to Western Washington for his proceedings. 292 00:14:30,418 --> 00:14:33,913 And she had the opportunity to talk specifically about Eduardo 293 00:14:33,913 --> 00:14:37,080 in I guess they're called it's like a spotlight hearings. 294 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,754 They can't call it a hearing since the Democrats 295 00:14:39,754 --> 00:14:40,960 are not the majority. 296 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,278 But Senator Durbin had a whole hearing about it. 297 00:14:44,278 --> 00:14:48,298 And it was so interesting to watch it from beginning to end. 298 00:14:48,298 --> 00:14:51,739 They had all these experts and people in the field, 299 00:14:51,739 --> 00:14:55,750 obviously the experience of their constituents and other 300 00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:57,879 congresspeople and senators. 301 00:14:57,879 --> 00:15:01,200 Eduardo's situation and what his experience has 302 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,899 been is not unique at all. 303 00:15:02,899 --> 00:15:06,341 So everything that they talked about are things that we are 304 00:15:06,341 --> 00:15:08,240 facing in our own specific case. 305 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:15,143 It's pretty awe-inspiring how efficient ICE has been with its 306 00:15:15,143 --> 00:15:22,451 kind of diabolical malevolence, but how it is like an efficient 307 00:15:22,451 --> 00:15:27,740 machine, what they are doing with those who they've detained 308 00:15:27,740 --> 00:15:31,134 and specifically what they're doing to folks 309 00:15:31,134 --> 00:15:32,918 in Western Washington. 310 00:15:32,918 --> 00:15:34,080 What do you do now? 311 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,412 We have to wait. 312 00:15:35,412 --> 00:15:37,974 So we're going to wait until we 313 00:15:37,974 --> 00:15:42,687 figure out who the judge is, which specific court it is, 314 00:15:42,687 --> 00:15:47,298 because that is when our attorneys can go into action. 315 00:15:47,298 --> 00:15:50,317 So, so on our end right now what we're doing is furiously 316 00:15:50,317 --> 00:15:53,860 getting all the paperwork, all the documents together that 317 00:15:53,860 --> 00:15:57,205 need to be submitted with this particular 318 00:15:57,205 --> 00:16:00,485 hearing here in Western Washington you'll have 319 00:16:00,485 --> 00:16:03,897 your bond hearing first in the Habeas Corpus part of it because 320 00:16:03,897 --> 00:16:06,980 they're a little bit tied together, even though they're 321 00:16:06,980 --> 00:16:10,259 separate proceeding separate hearing. 322 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:17,139 but in Texas they have them all running concurrently so 323 00:16:17,139 --> 00:16:21,186 we're going to be preparing for his merits case like 324 00:16:21,186 --> 00:16:24,293 I guess it's called so basically the the you 325 00:16:24,293 --> 00:16:28,081 know the government's case for removal right the same time 326 00:16:28,081 --> 00:16:31,340 that we're preparing for the bond so it makes it very hard 327 00:16:31,340 --> 00:16:35,076 for the attorneys to, you know, as you can imagine, it's 328 00:16:35,076 --> 00:16:38,600 very hard for the attorneys and the clients to prepare 329 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,120 for both of these things happening at the same time. 330 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,725 And as I understand it, they can happen very, very fast. 331 00:16:45,725 --> 00:16:48,000 So everywhere that they move them, 332 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,413 you got to find you a new attorney there. 333 00:16:50,413 --> 00:16:53,120 And as you can imagine, it is not easy because 334 00:16:54,259 --> 00:16:57,466 Because immigration attorneys, especially in 335 00:16:57,466 --> 00:17:01,153 places where there's large detention facilities such 336 00:17:01,153 --> 00:17:04,440 as El Paso, are overwhelmed by the need out there. 337 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,180 And so it's not a matter of them not wanting to do it. 338 00:17:07,180 --> 00:17:10,596 It is there's overwhelming amount of need for people. 339 00:17:10,596 --> 00:17:14,951 I mean, imagine, I think the El Paso Detention Center in Montana 340 00:17:14,951 --> 00:17:19,221 East holds 5,000, and they're trying to augment that facility 341 00:17:19,221 --> 00:17:21,356 to hold another 3,000 or 8,000. 342 00:17:21,356 --> 00:17:23,298 I can't even remember that a lot. 343 00:17:23,298 --> 00:17:25,813 So imagine that every family for every one of 344 00:17:25,813 --> 00:17:28,240 those people are trying, are descending upon the 345 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,240 legal community in El Paso, the immigration legal community, 346 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,640 to have to represent them. 347 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:33,940 So they are overwhelmed. 348 00:17:33,940 --> 00:17:37,036 And I'm very, very lucky to have found an excellent 349 00:17:37,036 --> 00:17:39,097 attorney there to represent him. 350 00:17:39,097 --> 00:17:40,900 How did you and Eduardo meet? 351 00:17:40,900 --> 00:17:44,240 So he is a longtime salsa dancer. 352 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,920 He used to compete and has been a longtime teacher 353 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,380 and just a long time presence in our salsa community. 354 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,920 And we met salsa dancing at a salsa social 355 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,057 during the pandemic. 356 00:18:00,538 --> 00:18:03,755 As I understand it, you both brought children 357 00:18:03,755 --> 00:18:04,939 to the marriage? 358 00:18:04,940 --> 00:18:09,096 He has one son who lives in Mexico who is 24. 359 00:18:09,097 --> 00:18:11,357 And I have three children. 360 00:18:11,357 --> 00:18:15,083 I have a daughter who is going into her freshman year 361 00:18:15,083 --> 00:18:18,806 of high school, and then one son who is off in college 362 00:18:18,806 --> 00:18:22,615 in Denver, University of Denver, and then a kid who's 363 00:18:22,615 --> 00:18:24,519 going off to UW in the fall. 364 00:18:24,519 --> 00:18:26,740 How's the family holding up in this? 365 00:18:26,740 --> 00:18:30,481 It's causing them to sort of lose faith in our 366 00:18:30,481 --> 00:18:35,240 Constitution and our government to protect its people. 367 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,135 And when I say it's people, all the people that the Constitution 368 00:18:38,135 --> 00:18:40,596 applies to, which is everybody who is in this country. 369 00:18:40,597 --> 00:18:41,884 Right. How about you? 370 00:18:41,884 --> 00:18:43,240 How are you holding up? 371 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,390 I have moments of obviously like real, real, real 372 00:18:47,390 --> 00:18:49,817 sadness and kind of despair. 373 00:18:49,817 --> 00:18:53,951 But like I have to sort of set that aside because Eduardo needs 374 00:18:53,951 --> 00:18:55,896 me to be doing what I'm doing. 375 00:18:55,900 --> 00:19:00,106 I just have to keep going forward with the legal process 376 00:19:00,106 --> 00:19:03,951 and then and also getting the word out in the press, 377 00:19:03,951 --> 00:19:08,615 contacting politicians, talking to people such as yourself 378 00:19:08,615 --> 00:19:12,549 with podcasts to just make it visible because I'm in 379 00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:16,487 a position to talk, to talk loudly and not without 380 00:19:16,487 --> 00:19:18,500 and without fear. 381 00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:22,009 What do you say to those people that would say, OK, well, he 382 00:19:22,009 --> 00:19:24,057 was here without documentation? 383 00:19:24,057 --> 00:19:29,396 He was doing everything that he could to obtain legal residency. 384 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,546 There was no time where he sort of was hiding and 385 00:19:33,546 --> 00:19:37,798 trying to not, you know, trying to screw away. 386 00:19:37,798 --> 00:19:40,837 He has long paid his taxes. 387 00:19:40,837 --> 00:19:44,019 He is long, you know, I mean, he's got a small business. 388 00:19:44,019 --> 00:19:46,499 He's important to our state. 389 00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:50,738 But putting aside that, I would also say that, look, everyone 390 00:19:50,738 --> 00:19:54,250 here, regardless of where they are from, are afforded 391 00:19:54,250 --> 00:19:56,740 protections under the due process, under 392 00:19:56,740 --> 00:19:58,806 the due process and in the Fifth Amendment 393 00:19:58,806 --> 00:19:59,500 of Constitution. 394 00:19:59,500 --> 00:20:00,640 We are all afforded that. 395 00:20:01,660 --> 00:20:06,759 So it doesn't mean just because he came here without a visa 396 00:20:06,759 --> 00:20:10,490 over 20 years ago that it's OK that he's deprived of 397 00:20:10,490 --> 00:20:11,880 his due process rights. 398 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,182 Yeah so the due process of price to everyone so but what I 399 00:20:15,182 --> 00:20:18,288 also realize is you know when I sometimes read the comments 400 00:20:18,288 --> 00:20:20,308 to the news articles that are out there right 401 00:20:20,308 --> 00:20:23,055 so and so forth there that they it's that they 402 00:20:23,055 --> 00:20:26,759 don't believe fundamentally that they should be 403 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:30,875 subject to the protections of the Constitution 404 00:20:30,875 --> 00:20:34,327 so if someone doesn't believe that it's hard to have 405 00:20:34,327 --> 00:20:37,240 a rational conversation um about what should or 406 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,240 should not be if we can't agree that um that he's 407 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,816 got not just rights under the Constitution but human 408 00:20:43,816 --> 00:20:46,701 rights right and he has no criminal record right 409 00:20:46,701 --> 00:20:49,200 so he's got no criminal record like and we've so 410 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,833 during the process most like lawyers that you 411 00:20:51,833 --> 00:20:54,766 know who are helping you file your immigration 412 00:20:54,766 --> 00:20:57,605 documents they don't want going to deal with like 413 00:20:57,605 --> 00:21:00,040 people with DUIs and other problems because it 414 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,736 makes it everything really hard and they just don't want 415 00:21:02,736 --> 00:21:03,103 to do it. 416 00:21:03,103 --> 00:21:05,460 So, you know, they'll pull a background check, even if 417 00:21:05,460 --> 00:21:08,517 you're like, I don't have any criminal background. 418 00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:09,797 Of course we did that. 419 00:21:09,797 --> 00:21:12,679 And just ran a check even two weeks ago, even though we 420 00:21:12,679 --> 00:21:15,778 know he doesn't, he just has no criminal history whatsoever. 421 00:21:15,778 --> 00:21:19,807 but I spit out a statement to Telemundo when they 422 00:21:19,807 --> 00:21:21,219 did their piece. 423 00:21:21,219 --> 00:21:24,038 They stated without any evidence 424 00:21:24,038 --> 00:21:28,269 to support their statement but they said that he had received 425 00:21:28,269 --> 00:21:31,078 a DUI in Kansas in the state of Kansas. 426 00:21:31,078 --> 00:21:34,835 So my husband has never been to Kansas. 427 00:21:34,835 --> 00:21:37,768 He has never driven in Kansas. 428 00:21:37,768 --> 00:21:40,382 It was rather Today we were just 429 00:21:40,382 --> 00:21:41,880 talking about this. 430 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,413 And he's like, the only places I've ever driven are Washington 431 00:21:45,413 --> 00:21:46,979 State, Oregon, and Hawaii. 432 00:21:46,980 --> 00:21:50,337 Those are the only three places I've ever driven a car. 433 00:21:50,337 --> 00:21:52,674 And I, you know, he probably couldn't even 434 00:21:52,674 --> 00:21:54,076 point out Kansas on a map. 435 00:21:55,180 --> 00:22:00,259 But ICE is just making things up. 436 00:22:00,259 --> 00:22:01,659 That's what they do. 437 00:22:01,659 --> 00:22:05,617 That's what they do and so um so they will they 438 00:22:05,617 --> 00:22:09,577 will sort of find a lie and then double down on 439 00:22:09,577 --> 00:22:13,476 the lie because that's what they're doing and you know 440 00:22:13,476 --> 00:22:16,679 I said and Congresswoman Jayapal said okay 441 00:22:16,679 --> 00:22:18,846 give it to us let's see it let's see let's see 442 00:22:18,846 --> 00:22:21,380 this Eduardo Aguirre that they arrested 443 00:22:21,380 --> 00:22:23,153 did in Kansas for DUI. 444 00:22:23,153 --> 00:22:25,616 Let's see if his fingerprints 445 00:22:25,616 --> 00:22:29,396 match up with that that USCIS has from when Eduardo 446 00:22:29,396 --> 00:22:31,294 entered. And wouldn't there be a mugshot? 447 00:22:31,294 --> 00:22:32,160 Wouldn't there be? 448 00:22:33,317 --> 00:22:37,902 Yeah. But they don't care. 449 00:22:37,902 --> 00:22:41,116 I think that what their strategy seems to be, and 450 00:22:41,116 --> 00:22:43,556 it's effective with the people who support what 451 00:22:43,556 --> 00:22:44,346 they're doing. 452 00:22:44,346 --> 00:22:46,381 They just ring ringing the bell and then 453 00:22:46,381 --> 00:22:48,732 you can't ring the bell it doesn't matter what 454 00:22:48,732 --> 00:22:52,025 that there's no evidence it doesn't matter that they've 455 00:22:52,025 --> 00:22:54,742 not uh you know come forth with anything um 456 00:22:54,742 --> 00:22:58,143 I've never had a DUI but I imagine that you know there's 457 00:22:58,143 --> 00:23:01,239 cops involved there's mug shots taken breathalyzer 458 00:23:01,239 --> 00:23:03,852 tests all these things yeah right I mean and so 459 00:23:03,852 --> 00:23:06,275 I'm okay give it to us but then there's another 460 00:23:06,275 --> 00:23:09,393 aspect of it was like like it's a red herring, 461 00:23:09,393 --> 00:23:11,019 it doesn't matter. 462 00:23:11,019 --> 00:23:13,200 He could have a thousand DUIs. 463 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,259 He is afforded even in those circumstances 464 00:23:16,259 --> 00:23:18,519 with due process and the jurisdiction 465 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:22,616 in which he is a resident, where he was apprehended, 466 00:23:22,616 --> 00:23:26,239 where he lives, where his business is located. 467 00:23:26,239 --> 00:23:28,778 You know, so the fact that, okay, 468 00:23:28,778 --> 00:23:30,659 we're not saying that like, you know, 469 00:23:30,659 --> 00:23:32,659 oh, just let out. 470 00:23:32,659 --> 00:23:34,961 I mean, that would be wonderful, but we're not saying 471 00:23:34,961 --> 00:23:37,576 that there is no process that has to happen. 472 00:23:37,576 --> 00:23:38,920 Okay, we already were here. 473 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:39,959 We're here in the process. 474 00:23:39,959 --> 00:23:42,000 So I'm not, we can't say that the, 475 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,096 you know, that shouldn't be. 476 00:23:44,096 --> 00:23:46,577 What we're saying is he should be afforded 477 00:23:46,577 --> 00:23:48,798 the due process in the Ninth Circuit 478 00:23:48,798 --> 00:23:51,553 here in the state of Washington so he can have 479 00:23:51,553 --> 00:23:55,159 access to, you know, not just his attorneys here, 480 00:23:55,159 --> 00:23:58,116 but also his family and support system 481 00:23:58,116 --> 00:23:59,159 and everything else. 482 00:23:59,159 --> 00:24:01,576 And how is he holding up when you talk to him? 483 00:24:01,576 --> 00:24:03,959 You know, Eduardo is, and I say this about him often, 484 00:24:03,959 --> 00:24:08,769 he's just unflappable he really is he has his moments of despair 485 00:24:08,769 --> 00:24:13,145 I know it where he's really low but he is a very stoic person 486 00:24:13,145 --> 00:24:17,640 he's a very like unlike myself like a glass half full person 487 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,316 which is why he complements me so well um he's very 488 00:24:22,316 --> 00:24:27,044 positive he tries to sort of he's a very strong guy so he's 489 00:24:27,044 --> 00:24:31,336 not kind of you know in his bed crying there's a lot of people 490 00:24:31,336 --> 00:24:36,471 who are um this is a perfectly good reason to crawl up in your 491 00:24:36,471 --> 00:24:40,355 bunk and despair um but he's holding up I would 492 00:24:40,355 --> 00:24:43,515 say remarkably well he knows that we're doing 493 00:24:43,515 --> 00:24:47,595 everything that we can to make sure that he gets the 494 00:24:47,595 --> 00:24:50,538 representation that he deserves. 495 00:24:51,999 --> 00:24:55,758 You know, you have been a presence, such as on this 496 00:24:55,758 --> 00:24:59,057 podcast and elsewhere, to get the word out. 497 00:24:59,057 --> 00:25:01,700 What do you want people to hear about this? 498 00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:05,796 I think I want the non-immigrant community 499 00:25:05,796 --> 00:25:08,298 to hear what's happening. 500 00:25:08,298 --> 00:25:11,719 because like I said earlier, I feel like there is a 501 00:25:11,719 --> 00:25:15,136 sort of a parallel universe where they are maybe, 502 00:25:15,136 --> 00:25:17,961 even though it's widely reported in the press, but they're not 503 00:25:17,961 --> 00:25:18,451 seeing it. 504 00:25:18,451 --> 00:25:21,625 They're not seeing it in their community up close. 505 00:25:21,625 --> 00:25:25,617 And that I just want people to see like, this is what our 506 00:25:25,617 --> 00:25:27,909 government is doing to the best of us. 507 00:25:27,909 --> 00:25:29,605 This is what they're doing. 508 00:25:29,605 --> 00:25:31,380 This is what they're capable 509 00:25:31,380 --> 00:25:37,603 of. I think people still are hanging on to the 510 00:25:37,603 --> 00:25:44,500 belief that our government does the right thing. 511 00:25:46,479 --> 00:25:50,184 Um and I think that they need to know what is happening 512 00:25:50,184 --> 00:25:52,000 that they that ICE will lie 513 00:25:53,179 --> 00:25:57,028 that ICE will about things that you've done or not done um 514 00:25:57,028 --> 00:26:00,384 that they will detain you for 10 hours things that we that 515 00:26:00,384 --> 00:26:02,663 are against our own laws right we don't 516 00:26:02,663 --> 00:26:03,660 do that to criminals 517 00:26:05,499 --> 00:26:14,159 that they're not, warrants, forget it. 518 00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:16,200 That is not even a thing anymore. 519 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,855 You don't need a warrant anymore to just break 520 00:26:17,855 --> 00:26:18,596 into someone's car. 521 00:26:18,596 --> 00:26:21,392 Not because a judge says you don't, but because they 522 00:26:21,392 --> 00:26:24,376 decided that they're just going to dispense with that. 523 00:26:24,376 --> 00:26:25,913 And I wouldn't be surprised to know that they're 524 00:26:25,913 --> 00:26:27,640 forcibly entering people's homes without warrants, 525 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,067 to know that they're forcibly entering people's homes without 526 00:26:32,067 --> 00:26:36,867 warrants, which is an obvious derogation of the Constitution. 527 00:26:36,867 --> 00:26:41,419 I want wider society to understand what is happening and 528 00:26:41,419 --> 00:26:44,478 if it can happen, if not everybody has protections 529 00:26:44,478 --> 00:26:47,097 under due process and of our Constitution, 530 00:26:47,097 --> 00:26:47,923 then nobody does. 531 00:26:47,923 --> 00:26:49,682 The next thing, they're going for, you 532 00:26:49,682 --> 00:26:52,991 know, I'm a naturalized citizen, they're coming for us right if 533 00:26:52,991 --> 00:26:56,400 you have green card come for you and the next thing you know 534 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,096 it's going to be just regular citizens who were 535 00:26:58,096 --> 00:26:59,798 born here in the United States they're going to 536 00:26:59,798 --> 00:27:01,784 be coming for them but I just read an article and 537 00:27:01,784 --> 00:27:03,817 I don't know if it was Wall Street Journal or what 538 00:27:03,817 --> 00:27:07,680 but they um but you know ICE is combing people's 539 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,640 social media accounts and so to then try to 540 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,691 to, against U.S. 541 00:27:12,691 --> 00:27:13,665 citizens, U.S. 542 00:27:13,665 --> 00:27:17,499 citizens, and they're not doing it for their health, they're 543 00:27:17,499 --> 00:27:20,471 doing this for some reason, to then later try to, 544 00:27:20,471 --> 00:27:23,298 try to strip them of their citizenship, to say 545 00:27:23,298 --> 00:27:25,576 that they're unpatriotic, or whatever it is that 546 00:27:25,576 --> 00:27:27,798 they're going to say, right, that they're, that 547 00:27:27,798 --> 00:27:31,351 they're co-conspirators in some terrorist organization, whatever 548 00:27:31,351 --> 00:27:34,855 they're going to fabricate and say that this is that this 549 00:27:34,855 --> 00:27:39,219 people need to understand that this is what is happening our 550 00:27:40,239 --> 00:27:43,025 democracy is long gone so when people are talking 551 00:27:43,025 --> 00:27:45,876 about we're slipping and sliding out of democracy 552 00:27:45,876 --> 00:27:51,883 it's over it's over and so the only hope that I have and that 553 00:27:51,883 --> 00:27:55,817 I think that most people are hanging on to is first 554 00:27:55,817 --> 00:27:58,105 of all the ability of our federal judges I'm not 555 00:27:58,105 --> 00:28:01,361 talking about immigration judges because that's a 556 00:28:01,361 --> 00:28:05,163 whole different thing but our federal judges um 557 00:28:05,163 --> 00:28:09,352 to be to hold up the Constitution right 558 00:28:09,352 --> 00:28:14,199 the lawyers but also um the our you know and our congress 559 00:28:14,199 --> 00:28:18,778 congresspeople that you know I was we had our um 560 00:28:18,778 --> 00:28:23,356 our primaries here the other day right and like 561 00:28:23,356 --> 00:28:26,488 our only hope is like we've got to vote for the people who are 562 00:28:26,488 --> 00:28:29,421 going to stop Donald Trump and his 563 00:28:29,421 --> 00:28:32,634 administration in their tracks that is that is 564 00:28:32,634 --> 00:28:34,535 our hope. 565 00:28:34,535 --> 00:28:37,106 Yeah. Stacey, can we stay in contact? 566 00:28:37,106 --> 00:28:40,096 I'd like to continue to follow his story and 567 00:28:41,459 --> 00:28:43,556 where he's at and what's happening. 568 00:28:43,556 --> 00:28:45,020 Yeah, I would love it too. 569 00:28:45,020 --> 00:28:45,652 Thank you. 570 00:28:45,652 --> 00:28:48,208 And I appreciate you taking the time to talk 571 00:28:48,208 --> 00:28:48,567 to me. 572 00:28:48,567 --> 00:28:51,015 I know that this is a real stressful time, 573 00:28:51,015 --> 00:28:53,239 but I appreciate you taking the time to talk to 574 00:28:53,239 --> 00:28:55,190 me. I know that there's a lot of stories out there. 575 00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:56,912 Yeah. And so the fact that you would spend this 576 00:28:56,912 --> 00:28:58,564 time with me to talk about Eduardo's specific 577 00:28:58,564 --> 00:28:59,519 story is very meaningful. 578 00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:00,357 Thank you. 579 00:29:00,357 --> 00:29:03,250 Well, I hope that Eduardo gets his day 580 00:29:03,250 --> 00:29:06,798 in court and also that he's safe wherever he is 581 00:29:06,798 --> 00:29:09,074 and that your family gets reunited sometime 582 00:29:09,074 --> 00:29:09,932 soon. All right. 583 00:29:09,932 --> 00:29:11,837 Stacy Fitzpatrick, I appreciate it. 584 00:29:11,837 --> 00:29:12,625 I appreciate you. 585 00:29:12,625 --> 00:29:13,096 Thank you. 586 00:29:13,096 --> 00:29:18,376 ♪ ♪